Kinzie Kenner Interviewby Ray | April 22nd, 2005
“I’ve sucked on a baby bottle while being fucked.”
RAY: So you don’t live in L.A.?
KINZIE: No, I live in Arizona. I’m from California, but I got the hell out of there. Thank god.
RAY: That doesn’t make me feel very good.
KINZIE: I’ve just lived there my whole life. It gets old.
RAY: Where did you live in California?
KINZIE: All over Southern California. We moved numerous times. There are a lot of things to do in California and I have friends that live there, but it’s crowded, annoying and overpriced. I like Arizona a lot better.
RAY: Yeah, I hear that a lot.
KINZIE: It’s a growing cult.
RAY: And therefore, it will soon be crowded, annoying and overpriced… It’s also one a hell of a commute for a porn star.
KINZIE: I drive six hours every time I go to L.A. I live like ten minutes from Phoenix. So I’m near the city, but I kind of feel like I’m away from everything.
RAY: Are you afraid to fly?
KINZIE: A little bit yet, yeah. But sometimes I can’t get around it. Like when I’ve been booked in San Francisco, or Florida, or one time on this island way off the coast of Aruba. But if I have the choice, I’d rather drive.
RAY: You know I constantly get emails about your website.
KINZIE: (Laughs) Yes. I work on my website, ClubKinzie.com It’s my baby. I update it every day. I shoot whole shitloads of stuff for it constantly. It’s something I put a lot of effort into and hopefully people see that. Most of it’s all shot at my house or off webcam shows or I even have video clips from some of the movies I’ve been in. Lots of exclusive stuff.
RAY: You’ve had a few different names over the years.
KINZIE: Well, my first name was Kirra. Somebody else picked that for me. I didn’t really know I was going to be in the industry at that point. I had done a couple of lingerie-style, non-hardcore photo shoots. Some guy named Dave picked my name for me, which I kept until I realized I was going to do videos. Then one drunken, sad night I was walking down the street by myself and I was crying. And I looked up at the sign I was leaning against, and it happened to be Kinzie St.
RAY: Why were you crying?
KINZIE: I had broken-up with my boyfriend at the time. He was a total asshole. He totally freaked-out that I was doing porn. Lots of drama. So, I was like “IT’S PAYBACK TIME, BITCH!” So Kinzie was my new evil name.
RAY: How did you get into porn?
KINZIE: One of my friends at the time brought me along for one of her photo shoots and I ended-up doing a couple shoots from there. Then I just branched-out and started doing movies. I didn’t do any boy/girl for about six months. I did pretty softcore stuff at first. Lengerie-style stuff and toys. It took me a while to even get to toys, I was so shy. Everybody in my family and everybody around me at the time was so conservative. I knew about masturbating and things like that, but I was unsure if doing videos like that was something that was totally wrong for me. Then one day I just picked up a vibrator and it sort of just sort of exploded from there.
RAY: So to speak. Are you open with your friends and family about your career?
KINZIE: I don’t have very many friends. I’m not the biggest people person. My friends that I do have all know what I do and are supportive. They buy my magazines and they go to the shows and come visit me. I kind of like having my little circle of friends and that’s it. Some of my family knows. Some of them don’t. I think it’s better that way because some of them are really judgmental, while others are pretty open. People in the public don’t usually judge me. I don’t go around announcing it, but if they ask, I’ll tell them what I do. I think it’s more common nowadays.
RAY: Do you get that girl-next-door label a lot?
KINZIE: Oh totally. I still battle the “I look like I’m 12″ thing like every day. I’m going to be 21 in July. My boyfriend is 35. Every time I go out in public with him, they look at me and they look at him — Then they look at me and they look at him. And they get this look on their face like “this isn’t right” what’s going on here?” It doesn’t help that he also wears this shirt that says “I love tots.”
KINZIE: Yeah, and it has a picture of tater tots on it!
KINZIE: And when he wears that shirt, people start thinking weird things.
RAY: Which of course, you love.
KINZIE: Well, I do tend to dress like a little girl. I shop in the little girl section at Wal-Mart. So I guess it’s my own fault in a way.
RAY: Sounds like more of an embrace than a battle.
KINZIE: Yeah, I don’t really mind it. I’ve always had the little-white-panty-and-socks fetish. It’s kind of cool to play the “little naughty girl that does bad things” role.
RAY: I assume your boyfriend digs the fact that you do porn.
KINZIE: Yeah, he’s all for it! He’s like, anything you do, I don’t care, just let me film it. He helps me with my website. He’s even open to being in the shoots sometimes. We have a lot of fun together! He’s very open and understanding and I think that’s the type of person I need because I’ve been around so many people who were anti-EVERYTHING. It’s cool to have someone who is really open and trusts me.
RAY: Are you engaged?
KINZIE: I am! I’m going to be married probably next year. I guess I should call him my fancé. It’s just hard to get into that groove.
RAY: Do you want me to print this news? Or will it crush the hearts of your fanboys?
KINZIE: Most of my fans already know. I’m pretty open. I don’t mind them knowing because it’s not going to affect the way I am on camera or the way I treat anyone.
RAY: So what did you do before you got into porn?
KINZIE: When I was 13, I used to paint houses with my dad.
RAY: Like graffiti?
KINZIE: No! (Laughs) Like actual painting. After that, I worked at Subway for a couple of years. I was “little miss Subway.”
RAY: For some sick reason, I can see that.
KINZIE: I’ve been teaching dance for a while, too. My whole life I’ve been in dance class. I’ve been doing a lot of dancing. Never stripped, tho. Just professional dancing. Hip-hop, jazz, modern, salsa — A little bit of everything.
RAY: When did you first have sex?
KINZIE: With a boy? When I was 16. It was kind of short. It was like 3 minutes long and I didn’t really know what was going on. I was like “did we just have sex?” and wondered if it really counted‚ because we only just humped for a little while. I didn’t really feel anything. I didn’t hurt, so I guess it was pleasant. All the times I did it with girls it was fun because I was like a lesbian until I was 16. I didn’t really like boys. I hated guys. I was a total feminist until I was 16 years old.
RAY: I can’t really picture you as a bull dyke.
KINZIE: (Laughs) Please don’t.
RAY: Who do you enjoy working with?
KINZIE: As for male talent, I like Tommy Gunn. Tommy is really sweet. He’s Italian like me. As for girls, I haven’t worked with Jesse Jayne yet, but I really like her and I would love to work with her. Michelle Layand I are good friends. We always work together and have a lot of fun. There is also this boy named Julian. Everybody knows him. He’s retired, but he’s just so scrumptious and I think every girl wants to work with him eventually. Girl-wise, aside from Jesse Jayne, every girl wants to work with Jenna Jameson. She’s just a legend, and a nice person. I also like Kaylani Lei a lot. She’s a sweetheart and I like little Asian girls.
RAY: Another fetish?
KINZIE: Yeah! A little bit!
RAY: What do you ultimately hope to accomplish?
KINZIE: I’m starting to work a lot more. I’m getting a lot more feature work and I’ve been meeting some really cool people. I don’t know if I’ll ever get a contract or anything but hopefully I can go far and make a name for myself. I want to keep traveling and going to all the shows. I don’t know if I’ll ever win an award or anything, but one can only hope!
RAY: What’s been your hottest scene ever?
KINZIE: I think some of my newer ones I haven’t seen. They haven’t been released yet, but there’s like 3 or 4 scenes that are really good. One that just came out for Sin City was Harlot with Billy Glide. That was a hot scene. We actually broke the table we were fucking on! And also this new Hustler one calledYoung & Thirsty Sperm Junkies.
KINZIE: That was with John Doe, and I swallowed two loads for the first time in that one! That was pretty cool! So they’re getting better and better each time.
RAY: How long before double V, double A?
RAY: Kidding. So what about your personal life? What’s the wildest thing you’ve ever done?
KINZIE: Oh my gosh. I’m really really really dirty. I couldn’t get away with half the shit I do at home on camera because I’d be arrested. I like to dress up like a little girl. Like a really bad little girl. I’ve sucked on a baby bottle while being fucked. I really like dirty talk. I’ve pissed on people before. I’m open to try anything!
RAY: Has anyone ever pissed on you?
KINZIE: One time. But it was in the shower, so it was nothing big. But I want to have a girl squirt in my mouth and I want to swallow it! That would be a lot of fun.
RAY: That’s very romantic. What about creampies?
KINZIE: I do them in my personal life, but not on camera yet. Maybe I’ll try it sometime but not right away. I like to pace myself.
RAY: What gets you really hot?
KINZIE: I loved to be teased. If somebody teases me right, it’s probably the best sex I’ll ever have. It’s like an animal comes out of me. If you tease me right, and play with me, and not give me what I want, then it’s ON from there!
RAY: What pisses you off?
KINZIE: Lots of things actually piss me off. But I’m really good at not saying anything for a long period of time until it gets to that point where I want to kill somebody. I can’t stand people that go back on their word. Or people that are shady, that can’t say the whole truth and always beat around the bush about something. If you want something, just ask for it. I can’t handle bullshit.
RAY: Luckily, you’ll never encounter any of that in this business.
KINZIE: Oh right. Never. (Laughs)
RAY: Other than porn, what other profession would you like to attempt?
KINZIE: Ultimately, I would like to open up my own performing arts center and teach music and dance, acting, stage-acting, and all the arts because I’ve always been involved in that my whole life. I did real acting before I did porn, so I want to teach people what I like to do so much.
RAY: Does that include blowjobs?
KINZIE: (Laughs) Yeah, maybe on the side. The corrupt performing arts center!
RAY: … For young Asian girls. So what’s your favorite sex act?
KINZIE: I’ve been told that I give really good handjobs. I know that’s pretty simple.
RAY: Actually, it’s an art… One which I have sadly perfected.
KINZIE: And I love giving really sloppy wet blowjobs too. I tend to drool a lot. It’s fun to watch people’s reactions when they’re like “damn this bitch can water!”
RAY: How many guys have you fucked with at the same time?
KINZIE: I actually did my first gangbang for Diabolic. I wasn’t supposed to be in the video. I was just supposed to be a strap-on girl. But I volunteered myself. And I guess I was really hyper that day and I ended-up getting fucked by five guys. I had a strap-on in the girl’s ass. A guy was fucking her pussy. There was a dick in my crotch. Good times! It was pretty crazy. I didn’t plan it. I never thought I would do anything like that. I went home and I was like “honey, guess what I did today!” He was like ok, so when are we gonna do that for your website?!
RAY: Were you this wild in high school?
KINZIE: In high school I pretty much just kept to myself. I was busy going dance class and getting into fights with stupid chicks. I wasn’t really the type to invite guys over. I was too shy until right after I got out of high school. I was very shy and very sheltered.
RAY: Do people ever say you remind them of anyone?
KINZIE: Oh my gosh. Yeah. All the time. Every day I get Amanda Bynes. I’ve gotten Jennifer Love Hewitt a couple times. I don’t really see that. But I’ve seen Amanda in person and it’s kind of creepy. People used to tell me I looked like Shakira all the time when I had long blonde hair. My hair has been every color in every way. Right now it’s red brown and blonde. Peter North actually called me and asked me to put highlights in my hair because he wants to shoot me.
RAY: Interesting that he’s concerned with women’s hairstyles…
KINZIE: Yeah, he’s always wanting me to change my hair.
RAY: Maybe he can frost it for you.
KINZIE: (Laughs) I think he’s going to! That man can frost many things.
RAY: Indeed. Faces, backs, school desks…
KINZIE: School desks?
RAY: Never mind. So you’ve got a lot of projects in the works.
KINZIE: Yeah, next week I’m shooting for Vivid, Peter North, and couple other things. Next month I’m shooting for a new Wicked feature. And at the end of the month I’m shooting for Simon Wolf, and I’m one of the lead characters in that movie, so that should be a lot of fun. And I just shot for Michael Ninn, too. I’m getting a lot of really cool assignments. And I can act. So it’s nice to be able to use a talent other than my ass!
RAY: Well, using both is what wins awards. Is there anyone you would never work with?
KINZIE: I wouldn’t work with my old roommate. His name is Matt Bixel. He’s really nice, but he’s more of a brother. I could never work with him. I’ve worked with Nick Manning once, but I’ll never work with him again. There was all kinds of drama with that. Hopefully that’s over with now.
RAY: What kind of drama?
KINZIE: There were some words said on a radio show or something. I don’t even know the full story on it. I just know I’m not working with him any more. It’s not worth it. I don’t really hate anybody. I just have my preferences.
RAY: What’s something about you that most people wouldn’t expect?
KINZIE: I love to cook! I spend a lot of time in the kitchen. My kitchen’s always a mess. I’m constantly cooking and cleaning. I’m Italian, so I like to eat. I really like Mexican food and Italian food. And sushi. I love fast food, too. I have an addiction to Taco Bell. That’s the only fast food I’ll eat. But I’ve been really good. I’ve been going to the gym every day, so it’s paying-off.
RAY: Do you have a dream car?
KINZIE: Yes, the Aston Martin V12 Vanquish. I don’t think I’ll ever have it. Maybe I’ll just go for that new Corvette that’s coming out this fall. The 500 horsepower one. That would be the nicest thing ever! I’m such a Chevy girl. I’m not a Ford person. I’ve had a Camaro. I’m all about the muscle Z-28 . Fords they have to put all sorts of superchargers into them to make them as fast as Camaros. Camaros are just born fast.
RAY: Hmm… So, you’re into fast cars, you like to cook, and you love sex. Why do boys like you again?
KINZIE: (Laughs) I wonder!
RAY: Is there anything that scares you?
KINZIE: Earthquakes. They stress me out. I was in the big Northridge quake back in 1994. My floor actually opened-up and I fell through it. I thought I was going to hell or something. It was really traumatizing. That’s why I moved to Arizona. I’d rather have fires and hot weather. But I could do without the scorpions. I hate scorpions.
RAY: Do you run into a lot of headaches when shooting your own material?
KINZIE: My fiancé actually shoots for Platinum Bucks. It’s pretty funny because we have an extra garage that we converted into a studio. We put ads out, and deal with agencies that have talent in our area. It’s amazing, the bums you run into. The first one we shot here, the guy showed up and didn’t say anything until right before the scene. And then he says ‘do you have a band-aid? I might need two of them.’ So I give him two and he lifts up his shirt and down by his groin he has this fucking oozing sore. I was like what the fuck is that? And he tells me he just got shot by a BB gun in his back yard. He had this big flesh wound on his shit, ya know? I was like, next time SAY SOMETHING, ya know?
RAY: You must encounter a lot of flakes, too.
KINZIE: Not really. But I know how flakey the people are in this industry, so I help-out with the casting. If my boyfriend wants to cast a girl who I know is a big flake, or doesn’t perform well, I’ll let him know he might want to choose somebody else.
RAY: Why do porn girls flake? Any theories?
KINZIE: I don’t know. I go to my shoots between a half-hour to an hour early. And people are usually like ‘is everything okay?!’ They think there’s something wrong. But I just get there early. I’m always on time, I’m always early. I make a point of it. I was young when I got into this business, but I grew up fast. I know most of the girls just get the money and they go out partying and spend it, and they wake up late and maybe decide they’re not pretty enough to show up that day. I’m sure some girls deal with that. It’s a mixture of things. Some of them are just drunk. Some are flakey people that go ‘Oh, I can get better shoots that’, or ‘I can get different shoots, it’s no big deal people are still going to hire me.’ Which is sad because bottom line, this is a business. People will still hire you because they’re trying to sell you. They need people to sell their products. And if you don’t show up for one shoot, somebody else will hire you, and it will always be like that unfortunately.
RAY: Listen to you. All level-headed and business-minded.
KINZIE: I try. I really think that’s important, to be organized and on top of things. I’ve made my share of really stupid decisions, but I haven’t spent $500 on a pair of shoes yet, so I think I’m doing good. I like to stay focused and not let things get to me like some people do in this business.
RAY: The haters.
KINZIE: Exactly. The haters. They’ve got nothing better to do. I grew up around haters, so now I just walk away from it.
RAY: Do you work with an agent?
KINZIE: I work with the best! Mark Spiegler. He’s the coolest agent ever. He’s the daddy of all agents.
RAY: Do you have anything you want to plug?
KINZIE: I would love for people to go to my website! ClubKinzie.com. Check it out. Hopefully they’ll find something they like.
RAY: Are you going to be at Adultcon this year?
KINZIE: Yes, I will be at Adultcon and Erotica-LA.
RAY: One final question… And this is a big one. In your opinion, what has been the most important invention in the last 100 years?
KINZIE: Um, jeez… I don’t know… The vibrator?
RAY: (Laughs) Best. Answer. Ever.